Microsoft is whacking prices on Black Friday for its first generation Surface Windows RT tablets as well as for Windows 8 laptops and Xbox consoles.

While Microsoft has had a tough time putting a dent in Apple's tablet share, one thing for sure is that Microsoft will be discounting its devices more than Apple this holiday season (last year Apple shaved $30 or $40 off its iPads). With Microsoft rolling out the new Surface 2 and Surface Pro 2 tablets and the Xbox One, older models can be had on the relative cheap come midnight on Thanksgiving. And those models have already had their prices chopped this year

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Microsoft's sneak peek of its Black Friday deals  (which seem to be hidden again on Wednesday, Nov. 20) showed a 32G Surface RT going for $199, $150 off the regular price (and $349 for the 64GB model). If you want a keyboard thrown in, Staples will have the 32G model available on Black Friday for $250.

Microsoft is peddling a Dell Inspiron 15Z with an Intel Core i5 processor and 6GB of RAM for $399 ($450 off the usual price).  A 14-inch Samsung Ultrabook and a 15.6-inch Gateway laptop will also feature big price cuts to be revealed as the week goes on.

Xbox 360 with 250GB of storage costs $199 vs. the usual $249. Popular new Xbox games can be had for deep discounts, like Call of Duty: Ghosts for $40 instead of the usual $60.

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